
Somehow, I don’t think that all those sneering at concerns about The Golden Compass had this in mind as the ideal alternative.
Or maybe they did. Who knows.
The Curt Jester has another version that has appeared:

But I’ve not seen that yet with my own eyes on a website as an ad, though. I’ll just trust that it’s real and that no one is being punk’d. (The first is running on Beliefnet. )
(Update: Jeff Miller (Curt Jester) wrote to New Line about this second ad, the text of which was cobbled together from two different passages in the USCCB review. They wrote him back, saying the ad was being withdrawn and new text added. So, the cobbled-together ad was the first ad, withdrawn because of protests, with the ad at the top of this post replacing it.)
How does it feel to be played?
Because nothing says, “dark irony” like a movie focused on blasting a “Magisterium” using a group of…er…bishops…to sell itself.
Nothing.
Look, I’m not going to do a massive GC post here. (um…I think you did anyway) There’s plenty of good discussion going on elsewhere – I think Insight Scoop will be GC Central for all of your “nitwit” needs. (Pullman’s description of his critics)
If Carl Olson doesn’t explode first, that is..
Here are the basics:
1. Pullman’s triliogy, in his own words is about “killing God.” And yes, God (the Authority, who is really a weak, decrepit, drooling powerless old man) dies.
2. In Pullman’s vision, authority – specifically religious authority, although he is saying all over the place that there’s no reason to think that he’s only talking about religion – is inimical to human freedom. Stands opposed to it.
3. In Pullman’s vision, human beings only find their true selves freed from the enslavement of religious authority. A reverse Garden of Eden scenario – very gnostic – is at the core of this.
Jeffrey Overstreet has seen the film and is observing the embargo on releasing reviews until the release date. However, he has commented:
Today, I saw the movie. And I’m not going to change a word of what I’ve written as a result. If the filmmakers tried to “tone down” the anti-religious content, they pretty much failed. “The Magisterium” is not a term invented by Philip Pullman. It’s a reference to the Catholic church, or at least to the truth that shines through scripture and the history of the church. And it isn’t hard to see that in the film.
Again, I’m not going to repeat what’s being very well said elsewhere. Pullman wrote a set of books to convince young readers that Christianity (and, we can assume, theism, period) is inimical to their true selves, best interests and ultimate happiness.
What I have to say is about the responses to the Nitwits.
1) Of course, as was the case with DVC, sneering is widespread and appropriately accompanied by disdainful sniffing. Hysterical Catholic Apologists bumbling into the Culture Wars. How typically retrograde and frankly, embarrassing. It’s Art.
So what you’re saying…is that this Philip Pullman is the Magisterium? The Authority we Must Not Question?
Oh, I get it.
Well, actually, I don’t.
The irony of trying to shut down debate about a work that sees shutting down debate as a crime against humanity is almost too much.
News flash: Being critical and discerning about entertainment choices is not a sin. Last I heard, it was a positive quality.
If a person says, “Hmm. I read those books. They may have their good points, but they’re not high, irreplacable literature and they are built around a false, misleading, bigoted portrait of religion and God. Nah, don’t think I’ll take the kids to see the movie. Oh, and when people ask me questions about the content, I’ll answer them.”…..
that is not a hysterical, culturally myopic, intolerant response.
It is the product of discernment, like saying, “I want to make sure my daughter isn’t exposed to a steady diet of degrading, sexualized images of what girls and women are supposed to be about and value.” or “This movie is a cheap, really awful, lame entry in the “stupid Christmas season” film genre. We’ll pass.” or “That movie glorifies nihilistic, consequence-free violence. Pass.”
Or, maybe, “Hmm. This Passion of Christ movie..I don’t like the way Jews are portrayed. I don’t like the violence. Doesn’t strike me as true to the Gospels or what I understand the Passion was all about. Don’t think I’ll see it. Won’t take my kids.”
Yeah. Like that.
It is okay. Embrace the discernment. Philip Pullman and New Line Cinema are not The Authority. You don’t have to see their movie. You can even…criticize it.
2) The other response I’m seeing – especially from critics who claim a spiritual bent – is that GC is so, so valuable because it will give parents and young people a great opportunity to discuss the important issues raised by Pullman about religious authority, human freedom, and so on.
Of course, anything can be used as a starting point for discussions on spirituality – a point that Christians engaged with culture know full well. Sometimes rather violent disagreements break out on just that score. Witness the appalled “well, I never” reactions to, say, pondering the darkness, scrambling and conflicted yearning for redemption on The Sopranos.
And at times the desire to scour the culture for anything – anything – as a discussion-starter reaches points of absurdity, as in “Bible Studies” based on The Andy Griffith Show or The Beverly Hillibillies.
So it is not, on its face, absurd to say that yeah, sure, GC can be a starting point for discussion. Got it.
The problem is with this starting point and young people and Catholicism.
Look at this way. After we finish with The Golden Compass, shall we break out The Protocols of the Elders of Zion to open up discussion on Judaism?
Probably not. Why?
Because we recognize that the Protocols are lies. It doesn’t matter that some people ascribe to that world view or believe that Jews are as the Protocols describe them. They are still lies. They are not helpful as a “starting point” for a discussion about the nature of Judaism. The starting point for a good – really good, fruitful discussion – is not the bigoted, agenda-driven misrepresentation of others.
So it is with the Golden Compass. The Authority – the God that is killed – is not the Christian God. It is a caricature – the caricature of every village atheist mired in adolescence. The “reality” that the fantasy is trying to create is that religious authority stands in opposition to truth, and that – via the imagery – that Catholicism is the primary embodiment of this, and ergo, Catholicism stands in opposition to the truth that brings human beings happiness and an awareness of their true selves.
That, of course, is simply not true. Christianity has brought millions – billions – real peace and joy. Christianity has been the framework for intellectual and artistic flourishing. Christianity has provided some – quite a few – of the building blocks for our basic understanding of the dignity of all persons.
Not that there are not problems. Not that authority hasn’t been abused to the detriment of human freedom.
But a truly fruitful discussion of the relationship between human freedom and Christian religious authority has to begin with the truth about Christianity, not a vicious caricature. I’m not saying that it’s impossible for such a thing to happen. But in saying that this is a fantastic way to “introduce” kids to these issues is just wrong because the terms that are set by the novels are patently false. Some defenders are saying that this is precisely the point – that what the Golden Compass teaches us is that if this is God and religion then yes it should die. For of course, Jesus had some things to say about religious authorities who lord it over others without taking on burdens themselves. Jesus had some things to say about the relationship between human beings and the Law. Jesus had some things to say about who God is.
And so, say the defenders…the Golden Compass is really, really Christian.
Okay, but the problem is that it is clear that what Pullman is suggesting is that the whole thing – the whole impulse to find transcendent meaning and authority is false, period. The attempt to make his theme into a muted Christ-like critique of abusive religious authority gives Pullman too much credit.
One way, however, that it could be fruitful is this. What Pullman cleverly explicates is, of course, a set of opinions about religious authority that should be familiar to anyone who works with young people or, in fact anyone who remembers being an adolescent.
Of course, religious authority is the enemy. Because, as an adolescent, I believed that my own way of living out my own vision and yearnings – what lay in my own heart – were sufficient for my happiness, and that any authority that questioned my authority was the enemy of my happiness.
In this sense, Pullman plays on sentiments that almost all young people share, and very expertly. The knowing adult who discusses this with young people has a chance to expose the deceptiveness and falsity of this vision, and to point out the wishful, prolonged adolescence at the heart of Pullman’s work, and then to move forward, pointing out its falsity.
Because it is false. At the heart of Christianity is this amazing paradox. The first shall be last. In death there is life. In being joined to Christ, I am free.
I often find it helpful to point out to young people who are struggling (justifiably) with the issue of personal freedom and what seems like absurd religious authority to consider the experiences of converts – from Paul to Augustine to Dorothy Day. We reflect on what they say about what has happened to them – and invariably, what jumps out is not the idea “Hooray, I’m now imprisoned in a dungeon of rules and obligations and my true self is obliterated Shut the door and throw away the key! “
Not quite. It’s the opposite, isn’t it. Peace. Joy. Love.
Freedom.
At last.
Freedom.
It is worth contemplating those experiences, long and hard. And honestly. For the truth is – and I know this from teaching – as much as you try to present the Good News as the Good News of real freedom rooted in the love of God for us – young people resist it. They still see it all as a Plot. Sometimes that is our fault – how many people have walked away from organized religion because it has, indeed, been presented as nothing more than obligations, mostly rooted in fear? But I think we also have to be honest about, well, Original Sin. There is a part of human nature that continues to resist Love no matter what, that persists in seeing it all as nothing more than a potential prison.
But you know what? These are issues that come up very naturally in the lives of adolescents. They are pretty much always present. You don’t need to give Philip Pullman and the makers of this film more money in order to make the discussion happen, just as you didn’t need to add to Dan Brown’s pile of money he’s sitting on up there in New Hampshire to have interesting discussions on Christian origins and Mary Magdalene.
Having good discussions about the nature of religious authority, particularly in the context of one’s own religious tradition is harder when you’ve got the bigotry and unthinking caricatures to slog through.
I have to say, I thought what Fr. Martin Fox had to say about this was very wise, and I’ll let him conclude:
Instead of the $20-50 you may spend at the theater, stay home with a good video and have pizza; you’ll have money left over, you can give to the hungry. That will be a golden lesson that will point your children in the right direction.





Maybe I’m just cynical but I’m thinking the publicity department was Catholic baiting with that ad. I’m guessing they felt the Catholic community wasn’t producing enough free advertising by raising a stink and calling for boycotts, etc. and they figured they needed to stir the pot some more. Just a thought.
Can anyone persuade Jeffrey Overstreet to send a resume to the USCCB?
Please?
Honestly, if their current film reviewer’s head doesn’t roll after this episode, I don’t know what it would take.
Great job, Amy. I emailed the USCCB yesterday re: the Forbes rvw, for all the good it’ll do. The only other response I can think of is to write to the Nuncio (Sambi). Part of the problem is that I think Catholics (who aren’t CINOs) are just getting worn down by having to stand watch for their families constantly because they (we) cannot seem to rely on our bishops (or the people they’ve hired & we’re paying!) to the job they’re supposed to do.
The conclusion I keep coming back to in my coverage of this story is that the USCCB really needs to address the personal problems in its office for Film and Broadcasting.
New Line is using that office’s sugarcoated review to not only spread these online adverts, but also initiate an extensive series of ads in Catholic publications across the country.
After all, when the game is prevarication, its the professional prevaricators who will put you to shame.
Many in the USCCB seem to always be jockeying for that Sally Field moment with our progressive betters.
“You like me! You really like me!”
But no matter how many times they diminish the tacky parts of the Catechism and Catholic moral teaching – no matter how hard they work to nuance embarrasing doctorines into bland plattitudes – and no matter how often they smile for the secular cameras, they will never be fully respected by the elite whose company they’re so fond of. No matter how much meat they toss to em, eventually the lions in the arena will be hungry again.
Amy, I just sent you an email about an interview with Philip Pullman that I read today. It contrasted in a very interesting way with Pope Benedict’s encyclical.
Some of the points you bring up in your post are the things that the Pope and Pullman both address in the two things I read today.
It’s fascinating to me. Too bad I have to get back to work. I want to keep reading all afternoon!
Here’s the link to the interview:
http://www.thirdway.org.uk/past/showpage.asp?page=3949
By the way – does anyone know anything about this website – Third Way? I haven’t had a chance to really take a good look at it yet.
Excellent post, Amy, and a wonderful, calm articulation of the many problems inherent with cheerleading the “Compass.” And just so you know, I’m monitoring my blood pressure and so far am just this side of complete melt down. ;-)
We had a small discussion on this very thing on my blog after a protestant youth minister left a comment stating one of the adults in his church’s youth program was taking a group of middle schoolers to the movie in order to encourage discussion.
The general response of my regular readers seemed to mirror Fr. Fox’s. While not supporting a formal (and likely counter-productive) boycott, this might be a case where individual Christians should consider sitting this movie out. I mean, come on, if they made Birth Of A Nation today, would you buy a ticket?
We’ve come a long way from the Legion of Decency, haven’t we?
Thanks, Amy. I’ve been feeling some sort of unwelcome obligation to say something about this on my blog, and now I can just link to you.
And this blog gets a mention on Lifesite re: this topic:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/dec/07120304.html
The USCCB really needs to address the personal problems in its office for Film and Broadcasting.
Or eliminate it entirely. What an idiotic waste of resources.
Yesterday the First Things blog reprinted a review of the Pullman books written in 2000 by Alan Jacobs. He did an excellent job of focusing on the potential impact of the books on the “young adult” segment of the publishing industry (an audience that is particularly devoted to the fantasy genre):
http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/?p=913
“…This sentimental refusal of historical understanding leads directly to the Manicheanism of Pullman’s moral vision: closed versus open minds, tyrants versus liberators, the vicious Church versus its righteous opponents….“Young adults” already spend too much time separating the sheep from the goats—the cool from the uncool, the socially approved from the socially ostracized—and they need no encouragement to practice binary division. A writer who tells adolescents that good folks are distinguished from evil ones on the single criterion of religious belief is not doing them any favors…”
Gosh, and all this time I thought that the bishops who comprise the USCCB were actually Catholics but, what do I know, I’m just a lay person…
Off now to check in on my Canadian Conference of (God willing in more than name only) Catholic Bishops…
New Line did approach diocesan newspapers and media outlets and offered to advertise this movie once the USCCB review came out. From our communications director, I’ve found out that none are taking the bait–most are appalled at New Line’s chutzpah. We will not be publishing the USCCB review. Most Bishops are outraged over the movie and have absolutely no control over their reviewer from the Conference. Yet, that is the problem. Harry Forbes who reviews for them gets to publish his opinion and stick the approval of the Bishops on it. Just watched Fox news mention how the Bishops liked the film. Not true, but folks won’t know that. Maybe this will push the Conference to change the way it approves or disapproves of films. Several dioceses have published either negative reviews of the books or letters from Bishops who warn against the movie. (Check out Bishop LIstecki’s letter from LaCrosse Diocese.)
Happy? Yes. Thank you very much, Amy.
I’ve read “His Dark Materials”. I thought the first two were brilliant but that Pullman lost control of his characters and, critically, his cosmology in the third to the detriment of both his story and his thesis. Still, they’re among the best things I’ve read in years, utterly thrilling to the imagination. I’m going to see the movie, though I doubt it holds a candle.
But even if the film it weren’t, as widely report, a considerably watered down Hollywood thrill ride, it’s the books being much more substantial works that are rightly seen as the real “danger”. I truly want to understand what is threatening about HDC and largely do thanks to essays like this one. This a thoughtful, passionate arguement, recognizing and reflective of the seriousness of the work in question and the issues it raises. Passionate defense, hell even offense, is the correct posture and if I’d argue about what does and does not constitute ‘shutting down debate’ or who is and isn’t being ‘a nitwit’, well, there are in fact Big Things at stake here and voices will raise.
I don’t agree, finally, with the assessment, but for reasons of difference in transcendent experience that I think ultimately aren’t subject to persuasion. I learned, though, quite a bit and enough for now. I have thinking to do on what HDC represents.
I believe I’m quite clear though on what HDC is, and is not, as art and in that you lose me. If I may be granted honesty of intent, here is where:
That “His Dark Materials” presents an incorrect image of the Church and religious authority or is misleading as a polemic in support of a flawed thesis? Tell me.
Deliberately “false”, “bigoted” and “lies”? No.
That one can and should make discerning choices about entertainment including and especially from a religious standpoint? Imperative.
That HDC are comparable to the cheap, foully “degrading, hypersexualized images” of young girls in our commercial media culture? Uh uh.
That the trilogy being so aggressively oppositional makes it counterproductive as a starting point for discussion, especially with young people? Who am I to have an opinion on what is suitable for another’s children, in matters of faith or otherwise?
As the Protocols of Elder Zion? Absolutely not.
Pullman, in his very interesting, mutually respectful interviews with Peter Chattaway and Huw Spanner makes it clear that he takes these issues of church, faith and art very seriously – note for telling instance that though he doesn’t like the Narnia trilogy, it is not as he astutely describes “The Lord of the Rings”, thematically inconsequential – and he has crafted something serious, powerful and compelling in response, which he vigorously defends.
I don’t know what more one can or should expect from art, or an artist, of any kind.
Thanks.
Where’s Joe Breen when you need him?
http://reason.com/news/show/123518.html
From Amy: Dead, I believe. You might be a little confused, since the League of Decency was about restricting the content of films, and this post is about discussing the content of films. Does that help clear up your confusion? Hope so!
Some good news:
It’s getting the rotten tomato at Rotten Tomatoes: only 38% positive.
Could be better, but definitely could be worse.
Bravo Amy! I can think of nothing to add. You’ve said it all.
I can’t help comparing two major news stories from this week:
That poor teacher in the Sudan allows a teddy bear to be named Muhammad and is nearly executed.
“Religious Skeptic” Philip Pullman calls Yahweh a liar and gets a blockbuster movie deal.
Thank you, Amy. This was classic form.
It’s not really legit to attribute that quote to the USCCB, is it?
From Amy: Of course it’s not. But that’s the risk of the USCCB having official film critics. Their words will be manipulated and exploited.
Though check out the analysis of Kim Fabricus, posted on faith-theology.blogspot.com:
Christians and The Golden Compass
by Kim Fabricius
While Richard Dawkins and his crack troops are busy shooting fundamentalist fish in a barrel, the Catholic League in the US, up in arms over the celluloid version of Philip Pullman’s The Golden Compass (the first instalment of the trilogy, His Dark Materials), is now taking steady aim at its own foot by calling for a mass boycott on this “atheism for kids.”
Hey, objects this kid, where are the Presbyterians and the Anglicans? In the novel the head of the wicked Magisterium is Pope John Calvin, while Pullman has called St Lewis’ The Narnia Chronicles “one of the most ugly and poisonous things I have ever read.” Let’s at least be ecumenical in our vilification of the film. I should be careful: the ultra-evangelical Christian Voice in the UK, infamous for its attacks on Jerry Springer: The Opera, doesn’t do irony.
Of course Pullman does have the church in his sights. Indeed he is on record as saying that “My books are about killing God.” I just hope that The Golden Compass faithfully executes the deicide that the author so imaginatively conceived and elegantly crafted in the novel.
For the death of this God would actually do the church a great service. He is the god Pullman’s mentor and fellow iconoclast William Blake, whose 250th birthday we celebrated last Wednesday, called Old Nobodaddy, who bears as little relation to the God Jesus called Abba as the straw deity that the New Atheists so tediously torch. This god, who is finally defeated in the third book of the trilogy, is a bearded old fart “of terrifying decrepitude, of a face sunken in wrinkles, of trembling hands and a mumbling mouth and rheumy eyes.” He is the object more of ridicule than indignation (one thinks of the satire on idolatry in Isaiah 44).
The real target of Pullman’s animus is not this impotent wretch but his grand inquisitors who deploy religion in the (dis)service of control and repression, the ecclesiastical authority so savagely pilloried by Blake in “The Garden of Love”:
And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tomb-stones where flowers should be;
And Priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys & desires.
As Rowan Williams, a great fan of Pullman, has written: “What the story makes you see is that if you believe in a mortal God, who can win and lose his power, your religion will be saturated with anxiety – and so with violence. In a sense, you could say that a mortal God needs to be killed.”
But the narrative does more than smash empty idols, expose institutional hypocrisy, and condemn vice – “cruelty, intolerance, zealotry, fanaticism … well, who could quarrel with that?” asks Pullman – it inculcates what are decidedly Christian values. Pullman’s coming-of-age story is articulated in terms of growth in wisdom. Here is the winsome heroine, Lyra, reflecting at the very end of the trilogy on selflessness and truthfulness, the virtues it takes to create anything good, beautiful, and enduring: “We have to be all those difficult things like cheerful and kind and curious and brave and patient, and we’ve got to study and think, and work hard, all of us, in our different worlds, and then we’ll build.” If such values are indicative of a “pernicious atheist agenda,” bring on the AOB.
Okay, Pullman’s onslaught is unrelenting, his didacticism can get the better of his art, and for a writer so knowledgeable about a literary tradition steeped in Christian faith – not only Blake and, of course, Milton (“his dark materials” comes from Paradise Lost), but also, among others, Edmund Spenser, George Herbert, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, and Emily Dickinson – he can be theologically quite obtuse, if not without flashes of insight.
But that’s not the point. The point, for the church, is the embarrassing mini Magisterium of Christian Pharisees and Philistines who prove the point Pullman is making. And the ultimate irony: there is nothing like a good boycott to market a product. Popcorn, anyone?
Very well put Amy. Very thoughtful, very well written and filled with truth!
I seem to remember a large controversary over the harry potter movies and books as well among the christian community. I think parents/catholics/christians need to make choices as to whether or not to see the movie or not. It is like a lot of other things in this world, or in our country…we have freedom of speech, freedom of religion and belief. I believe in Grace, I believe that God is bigger then any movie that may slander Him or His name. He has overcome much bigger things then this. It’s just a movie people. Don’t hate the creators, love them, show them grace and kindness, just don’t see their movie. Don’t give the movie the money at the box office if you don’t think it warrants it.
From Amy: Agreed. That was the point of the post.
“It’s just a movie people…” doesn’t wash with me. Grace and kindness and loving the creators of creations we understand are intended for evil are not negated by being responsible Christian people willing to address the wrong and speak up for truth. Of course God is bigger than any (thing) that may slander him but it was God who placed prophets in the land to address wickedness and falsity within his house and outside of it.
Movies are arguably the greatest purveyor of ideologies we have in North American culture, perhaps tied with TV and way, way over books. So to say it’s just a movie is akin with saying something like, it’s just a jet people. Anything can become a vehicle used for destruction and Pullman has his flight locked on target.
However, in terms of not seeing the film and not contributing my dollar in the offering plate of the father of lies and those who serve him, intentionally or not, well on that note I am in full agreement.
True love for one another and for the lost does not automatically negate speaking out for truth in fact, true love demands the truth be spoken, in love.
I can assure you, that top one was a real ad. I saw it on Beliefnet — Rod Dreher’s blog, to be exact. Ack. Nearly fell off my chair.
Can we be deep about this at all? I mean, if the content of a story is thought to be a threat to a faith, doesn’t that tell us more about the problems of that faith than problems with the story? I believe it would be a good thing if the United States implemented a policy to achieve universal health care. Does this mean I should turn away from arguments to perpetuate cutthroat capitalism, hiding in some mental bunker of socialist ideology? Might I instead benefit, even grow, from exposure to alternative perspectives?
The same logic ought not be abolished in the name of religion. It seems to me that devout believers should have no trouble reading non-fiction that actively challenges the pillars of their faith. If that faith is authentic, it should only be refined by the best available challenges to it. If, far from an overt direct challenge, a work of fiction lends itself to interpretations that challenge faith, it should also still be well withing the strength of the devout to appreciate the underlying story.
Digging Star Trek does not mean that I have to believe in Klingons. It does not even mean that I have to support Roddenberry’s underlying narrative themes about a post-materialist future and a peaceful pluralist society. Likewise, I can enjoy a good Cheers rerun without actually being a barfly or supporting the beer and wine industries. As I see it, public reaction, including all this prejudgement about the quality of an unseen film, should be raising alarms about the integrity of faith today — not dignified as legitimate alarmism about the state of Hollywood.
From Amy: Was any of this the point of my post? No. As frequent readers know, we are all about discussions about religion here. My point in my post was about 1)Those who sneer at critiquing Pullman as being expressive of “fear” or closed-mindedness. I simply point out that Pullman is not his own Magisterium, and that seeking to shut down debate of Pullman’s work is pretty ironic and 2) That the issues of personal freedom and individual authority are real, but that Pullman’s distorted (even for fantasy) presentation, in which all religious people are evil and that any God is a threat to personal freedom is a poor beginning of good discussion because it’s just so idiotic. Basically.
I remember the old masters asking me to meditate on “Giving up God for God’s sake” There are many ways of starting on this path and writing about killing off God and wathching other’s reactions to your efforts is one of them. In my view though its like knowing that sarcasim is the lowest form of wit. If the authour is doing his “dark night of the soul” thing then well and good. I look foward to the sequal when he finds the indescribable God.
This adds nothing material to the debate (I may not be the only poster doing that!) but it is weirdly appropriate. The central ad department for the newspaper chain I work for just approved the copy for a local theatre featuring “The Golden Cumpass.” I wonder if this might bring in a bit of the porn crowd, as well….
I appreciate that there are words in this post that claim it is not a theological critique of art. Yet it the end it doesn’t seem to offer up any critiques that are not rooted in theology. I don’t think the “religious people shouldn’t be threatened by art that contradicts their sacred narratives” argument shuts down debate. I think it concludes debate by virtue of actually winning the clash. Religious people shouldn’t be threatened by art that contradicts their sacred narratives. Unless one wants to take the position that religious people should be threatened by art, then there is no substance to discuss along that avenue of thought.
Now, the idea that radical individualism is “idiotic” may be another matter. Yet The Golden Compass is not a scholarly treatise on radical individualism. It is a story. I avoided the obvious earlier for fear of derailing things, but I might as well go there now. Nazism was idiotic. Racial supremacy, global domination by warfare, using brute force to crush the German political left . . . the whole thing is just despicable. Yet does that mean a movie set in Nazi territory cannot be entertaining, or even enlightening? Does that make it impossible to present a character in some sympathetic light in spite of having Nazi affiliation? In spite of my feelings about Nazi’s, I found HBO’s adaptation of Fatherland truly entertaining. Had I let an irrational hostility toward a narrative theme influence my judgement, I might never have seen it.
Being a person without religious faith does not prevent me from judging (favorably, having read the series) C.S. Lewis’s most popular children’s books. I would not hesitate to recommend them to young people, even children being raised without immersion in any religious tradition. I lack the firsthand knowledge to determine if The Golden Compass and companion pieces are particularly entertaining. Yet I do worry to see so many people of faith preferring to pass judgement without that firsthand knowledge, reaching conclusions about entertainment value based on theological concerns. Perhaps this piece goes further than most in exploring the underlying process, but as far as I can tell it does not actually transcend that process by focusing on the entertainment value of the actual reading/viewing experience and escaping reaction to controversial narrative themes.
When someone says we must first see THE GOLDEN COMPASS before we may critique its known intent, they are just trying to bait us. Don’t get fooled by that. Paying to see that trash is not smart, it is foolish, so don’t believe the followers of THE GOLDEN COMPASS who call us foolish because we are too wise to partake of THEIR foolish, atheist propaganda.
We don’t need to watch every porno DVD before we may say porno should be shunned, just as we don’t need to see awful movies promoting religious bigotry before warning others not to waste their money on THE GOLDEN COMPASS and its perverted religious teachings. Trash is trash, warn your friends to avoid trash.
For the supposed atheist author of THE GOLDEN COMPASS, he sure does put a lot of occult and demonic references in his anti-God story.
It takes a village atheist to promote trust and confidentiality with “daemons,” (pronounced as demons), to your own children while teaching that God is the enemy. That’s not even atheism, that is demon worship. That is the content of THE GOLDEN COMPASS.
All hail the New Atheists, same as the old pagans.
I know I’m late to this party,
but I saw the film last Sunday afternoon,
and I have been re-reading the books afterward (almost done).
I don’t think Pullman could watch the film,
although I’m sure he can cash the check.
The film is like the book after intercision.
It is a Teletubbies version of Milton’s “Paradise Lost.”
The books, on the other hand,
are more like a Young Adult Fantasy spin
on Milton’s “Paradise Lost,”
which gives the title of the trilogy,
“His Dark Materials”
(His = God’s; Dark Material’s =
the stuff used to make a new world after
Lucifer’s fall; see “gap theory” of Genesis 1, etc.)
with a lot of angst that corresponds well with
the decay of the British Empire in the 1950′s-1970′s.
This idea is very clear in the poem by Blake
at the front of “Amber Spyglass.”
I find the books to be pretty good,
in a Protestant religious fantasy sort of way.
The movie is a crime.
Hi Amy and everybody,
I’ve been collecting links on TGC/PP/HDM and have posted them over at my place. Added a few new ones today:
http://claresiobhan.stblogs.com/2007/12/10/stack-o-links-the-golden-compass-phillip-pullman-and-his-dark-materials/
“…for all your nitwit needs.” (LOL! Good one.)
Clare, blogging at Always Advent
http://claresiobhan.stblogs.com
“I appreciate that there are words in this post that claim it is not a theological critique of art. Yet it the end it doesn’t seem to offer up any critiques that are not rooted in theology…”
The books, if not the film, have been subject to sharp criticism, including by Mr. Pullman’s fellow fantasy authors, for delinquencies in the plot, independent of any theology . See, for example, here:
http://johncwright.livejournal.com/136385.html?nc=92
All that Demonweed’s comments amount to is the argument that religious people, when slandered in the most unfair and inflammatory terms, should not speak a word, or even think a thought, in their own defense, lest they be called narrow-minded.
In a court of law, the jury listens with strict attention to the prosecution and to the defense; and after the evidence is in, makes a judgment. It is legitimate both for the defense to point out when the prosecution is lying, and for the jury to find, based on the weakness of the prosecution’s case, in favor of the defendant. A judge cannot call it a mistrial merely because he does not care for the verdict.