The question of the week, it seems.
I’m going to invite you one more time to consider how interesting it is that this is always the question. What is a woman? What do you have to do or be to be considered a woman? Who should be admitted into women’s spaces?
Where’s the agonizing about what is a man?
Why is the central, burning question:
How can we define “woman” to include men?
Of course this movement is misogynistic and male supremacist. I’ve been pointing that out for a while:
A movement that is based on:
- Convincing young women that they would be better off male
- Enabling males to be accepted as girls and women
- Western gender stereotypes that emphasize female submissiveness and appearance
No…that’s not misogynist at all.
The essential takeaway from Kentaji Brown Jackson’s unwillingness or inability to define “woman,” I think, is not so much about her, personally, but about shedding yet more light on the ultimate illogic of sex agnosticism.
As many have (gleefully) pointed out – if Jackson can’t define “woman,” is there any grounds for pride in the accomplishment of possibly being the first Black woman on the Supreme Court? If we can’t define it, it doesn’t exist as a useful category any longer.
If we can’t define it – if it’s open season, if feelings define membership in the category, then what’s the point of Women’s history, women’s schools,, women’s groups, women’s prisons, women’s shelters, women’s teams or any accomplishment of this undefinable thing called “Woman.”
It’s gone. Just like that.
Which is where your traditional feminists come up hard against transactivism, only they either don’t or won’t see it yet.
So what is a woman? Here’s the simplest definition you’ll probably find, and one that avoids the minefields of infertility, the absence of pregnancy or birthing in a woman’s life as well as physical variation, either congenitally or in the course of one’s life:
Male and female are basically (and unromantically) just the bodies that house one of the two gametes required for sexual reproduction.
And a “woman” is an adult human female.
And that’s it. For let’s face it: once you allow the self-definition of “gender” to replace sex, you have removed human beings from the “mammal” category.
The reason that this is essential is not because of abstract definitions. It is because women – as women – as adult human females – have certain experiences in life, are vulnerable in certain ways – that are unique.
There is a reason women and men are housed in separate prisons.
There is a reason why abused women, most of whom have been abused by males – need single-sex shelters.
There is a reason why girls entering puberty and navigating the beginning of menstruation need privacy from males.
No, you do not need to be a biologist to figure this out.
Further, when it comes time to restrict certain human beings from going to school or forbidding them to drive or put them in burkas or performing genital mutilation – seems as if, globally, there’s not much ambiguity about the matter.
To prioritize subject, self-discerned gender identities over biological reality and the privacy, safety and dignity of women and girls is absurd, wrong and the fruit of narcissism run wild, which it will do, every time, if not checked.
Interestingly, Matt Walsh announced a new project today:
The TERFy boards and discussions I follow are generally torn about this, not surprisingly. For Walsh is, of course, a Very Bad Guy, but as is the case with this issue, progressives and liberals, even liberal feminists, have sold out completely to transactivism. Actually “torn” is too mild. At wit’s end, is more like it, deeply and profoundly frustrated at the political homelessness they feel and disgusted that they’re put in a position of finding more in common on this fundamental issue with the likes of Matt Walsh than Kenjati Brown Jackson.
One more point, perhaps edging up to conspiracy-land. This may be too tin-foil hatty for you, but here you go:
One of the life skills that females learn early is to be on our guard against males. Sorry to bust your idealistic bubble, but it’s true. Not all males, of course, but let’s put it this way: you’re in a public restroom or locker room and another woman enters, you don’t even notice, even though this is a space in which everyone is doing intimate things. It’s nothing.
A male enters?
You tense up.
You’re walking alone on a street, especially at night – a woman approaches? Again, nothing. Maybe you greet each other, maybe you don’t. No fear.
If it’s a man?
Different story.
Sitting a coffee shop and a woman strikes up a conversation? Perhaps a little annoying, depending on your mood, but probably not threatening. A man? Could be nothing, could be me anodyne human interaction, but you never know. You tense up, just a little.
Women have defenses against males for a reason. There is no denying that most physical violence against females is perpetrated by males, and always has been.
But now, what if women – especially young women – are being gaslit and conditioned to repress their own natural defenses, their own instinct to protect themselves…. for the sake of “kindess”….to men?
Who benefits?
Who?
I’ve literally had nightmares about this issue. The stakes are just so high, and it’s hard to have any sense of hope.
I would largely agree with your essay here. (Though many men have concerns about women, just ones different from physical intimidation.) I do think you and others have a blind spot about “progressives and liberals, even liberal feminists, have sold out completely” because, simply, they haven’t. Since wading in here last week, I did check out some mainstream opinions and found some liberal feminists and trans persons with serious questions and concerns. And not only about sports. Those concerns made it to print. Or the web. You just have to look for them.
As a father of a daughter, I would encourage her and anyone else to raise a stink to high heaven if they experienced institutional threats to their safety. #metoo is not over as a movement. Not at all.
And while I’ve been the target of “gaslighting” with my wider stance on bullying, I think it goes to the core of why trans people, if they have a choice between all-male and all-female facilities, would tend to choose the latter, mostly for their own sense of safety. I’m not saying it’s right or even close to optimal, only that I can understand it. They probably need their own options, but in the current climate, they aren’t likely to get it.
And even if such persons didn’t exist, we know there are males, particularly in school settings, who are victimized by physically stronger males. They sure don’t feel safe in the silliness of group locker rooms and showers and other all-male situations that produce intimidation. I think it’s possible for women to see trans persons and non-athletic males as allies against a larger movement of bullying, intimidation, and institutional pussyfooting.
Otherwise, thanks for keeping the issue at the forefront.
>>>if they have a choice between all-male and all-female facilities, would tend to choose the latter, mostly for their own sense of safety.
Yes, that’s the male lizard brain reading the room and not seeing women as the same physical threat. Because, in the ordinary run of events, they are not.
But it’s the same male lizard brain which insists on barging into that space without regard to the women who are already there. Male obliviousness or disregard–it doesn’t matter. The impact is the same.
I agree that separate spaces are the solution–akin to reasonable accommodations under the ADA. They meet the needs of the individual without giving the preferred option, which is sufficient.
Alas that the shortsighted people excluded gender dysphoria from coverage as a disability–that was a huge mistake, but one that can be rectified.
“the same male lizard brain which insists on barging into that space without regard to the women who are already there.”
In other words, being a jerk about it.
The wider culture, including people who wrap themselves in church culture, can tend to see the world only in terms of their comfort and safety. Sometimes this is rooted in past negative experiences–rape, bullying, assault, etc., and as such, can be served with compassion and mercy. Other times, this can be about white males who are used to having the world bow and kiss their feet. In those situations, perhaps a head slap is a better remedy for the situation.
Separate safe spaces for trans-identifying individuals is the answer. And it does not matter if said individual has the best will in the world–women need and deserve their space.
One problem with the sex-differentiation definitions is that, like with marriage before it, people are viewing the equation backwards.
In algebraic terms, rather than a female/woman = X, and a male/man = Y, which invites all sorts of arguments as to what X and Y are, it needs to be considered in reverse.
One who has the natural capacity to conceive and carry and bear offspring is X, and one who has the natural capacity to impregnate is Y.
How do we determine the sex of other species?
This issue really isn’t that hard. Except, of course, when one eats the fruit of the Tree and as a consequence becomes more ignorant, not more knowledgeable.
Excellent, as always. My wife and I were discussing this yesterday, and she balks at calling men who call themselves women that because they aren’t.
They haven’t gone through the monthly anxieties since puberty, or been deathly afraid of walking in the university parking garage at night without their usual female classmate looking out for each other, or flinching at a date’s explosion of anger at traffic, or experienced being passed over for a man…
But now, in the greatest imposition of male privilege yet, men are celebrated for occupying women’s spaces and assuming zero-sum opportunities involving women. And all of those experiences are dismissed and entirely irrelevant.
I was reading your piece on the Annunciation and then bumped into this again.
What is a woman, indeed.
I can’t wait for our self-driving cars to start trying to drive on rivers, because the rivers identify as roads and we don’t want to offend them.
That “what is a woman” is a perfect sound bite, for sure. But, of course, there’s the missing context:
Sen. Blackburn: Let me ask you this. The United States versus Virginia, the Supreme Court struck down the admission policy , writing for the majority, Justice Ginsburg stated, supposed inherent differences are no longer accepted as ground for race or national origin classifications. Physical distancings between men and women, however, are enduring. The two sexes are not fungible. A community made up exclusively of one sex is different from a community composed of both. Do you agree with Justice Ginsburg that there are physical differences between men and women that are enduring?
Judge Jackson: Um, Senator, respectfully, I am not familiar with that particular quote or case, so it’s hard for me to comment as to whether or not —
Sen. Blackburn: I would love to get your opinion on that, and you can submit that. Do you interpret Justice Ginsburg’s meaning of men and women as male and female?
Judge Jackson: Again, because I do not know the case, I do not know how I interpret it. I would need to read the whole case.
Sen. Blackburn: Can you provide a definition for the word woman?
Judge Jackson: Can I provide a definition?
Sen. Blackburn: Yes.
Judge Jackson: I cannot.
Sen. Blackburn: You cannot?
Judge Jackson: Not in this context. I am not a biologist.
Sen. Blackburn: The meaning of the word woman is so unclear and controversial that you cannot give me a definition?
Judge Jackson: In my work as a judge, what I do is I address disputes. If there is a dispute about a definition, people make arguments, and I look at the law, and I decide.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5007810/user-clip-jtkcpa-blackburn-questions-leading-define-woman.
Basically, Ketjani Brown Jackson was following the “Ginsburg Rule”, just as Amy Coney Barrett did in her confirmation hearings. Here she was in an exchange about gay rights:
“It sounds like you’re on your way to talking about Masterpiece Cakeshop and some of the cases that are very hotly contested and winding their way through the courts,” Barrett said. “And so I want to make sure that I’m not in a position where I’m eliciting any views that would bear on litigation that’s very active.” [my emphasis]
Republicans defended Barrett as simply being careful about controversies that are sure to come to the court, and compared her responses to those of Ginsburg, who declined at her confirmation hearing to give “previews” of her views on cases, and Justice Elena Kagan, who said it was improper to give “thumbs up or thumbs down” on the court’s precedents.
“Every time you ask me a question about whether a case was correctly decided or not, I cannot answer that question,” Barrett said at one point. As a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit, she is required to follow Supreme Court precedents regardless of whether she agrees with them, she said.
“And were I to be confirmed, I would be responsible for applying the law of stare decisis to all of them,” she added, referring to the court’s process of deciding whether precedents should be respected or overturned.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/amy-coney-barrett-gay-rights/2020/10/24/55064586-153b-11eb-ba42-ec6a580836ed_story.html
How would the Ledbetter case, for example, be decided without a definition of “woman”?
I meant to put this in bold in my previous post:
Judge Jackson: In my work as a judge, what I do is I address disputes. If there is a dispute about a definition, people make arguments, and I look at the law, and I decide.
Not all women have an X chromosome (e.g., those with Turner syndrome). Not all women have functioning wombs and ovaries, and some were born without wombs and ovaries at all. Some women never menstruate. Others have extremely high natural levels of testosterone (whether due to PCOS or other factors). A lot of these women have thick facial hair and features which may cause them to be read as male. And after menopause, no woman can naturally conceive and bear children. Do you have a definition of “woman” which contains these women as well?
Do you?
I’m not the one posing the question; you are.
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